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Wednesday, December 9, 2009


ACLU =American Civil Liberties Union

Acorn = Association of Community Organizations for reform now

Both = Disgust

Sunrise cross honoring World War ll veterans in the Arizona Mohave Desert

Part of an opinion written by Rees Lloyd
On Veterans Day, many Americans visited veterans memorials as Americans have for years. Today, however, veterans memorials on public land are under threat from establishment of religion clause lawsuits.
These lawsuits are being filed by the American Civil Liberties Union on the behalf of individuals who complain that they are offended by the sight of a cross at a veterans memorial. Although generally unknown to most Americans, the ACLU seeks and receives millions in judge-ordered, taxpayer-paid attorneys' fees in these cases.
The U.S. Supreme Court will render its decision this term in one such case (Buono v. Salazar) regarding a World War II veterans memorial cross in the Mojave Desert National Preserve ("Supreme Court at crossroads over fate of Mojave cross," Oct. 8). A similar case involving a veterans memorial cross at Mount Soledad is before the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (Trunk, et al. v. U.S.). It also appears certain to go to the U.S. Supreme Court.
At stake in these court cases is whether 300 million Americans shall have the right to choose how they will honor their war dead and other veterans or whether a veto power over those decisions shall be held by the ACLU or a single individual who claims "offense" at the sight of a cross honoring veterans. Thus, the importance of these court cases cannot be overstated.
However, I respectfully suggest that such issues, which fundamentally affect and shape our national culture and character, should not be decided by the courts. It is time for Congress to act to protect our veterans memorials from abusive Establishment Clause lawsuits by the ACLU, which has become the Taliban of American liberal secularism, and other fanatical organizations.

I agree with this opinion for the most part however, I am not sure our current Congress would be any better suited to making a decision. This cross now has a box built over so as not to be seen until the court's decision is made.

The argument used in this case is that this cross is on government land and our United States Constitution says there is to be separation between church and State.

Did you know that "separation of church and state" does not actually appear in the constitution? It is an Amendment and is a concept derived from the following letter that Thomas Jefferson wrote:
To Messrs. Nehemiah Dodge and Others, a Committee of the Danbury Baptist Association, in the State of Connecticut. January 1, 1802.
by Thomas Jefferson

Gentlemen, — The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist Association, give me the highest satisfaction. My duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, and in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.
Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between church and State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.
I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection and blessing of the common Father and Creator of man, and tender you for yourselves and your religious association, assurances of my high respect and esteem.
( Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Danbury Baptist Association, January 1, 1802; from Merrill D. Peterson, ed., Thomas Jefferson: Writings, New York: Library of America, 1994, p. 510. )

If the ACLU and our courts truly believes that this amendment to our constitution means that it is wrong to have a cross on government property than I think they have started at the wrong location....they shouldn't have jumped on this cross out in the middle of nowhere that was erected to honor those brave men that died so that they could holler they are being, they should start here at this United States owned graveyard.
Monticello estates willed to the government by Thomas Jefferson himself and located in Va. where he is buried. You see the arched stone with a cross on top? That is the tombstone of Thomas Jefferson's grandson.
Listen folks....the acorn has fallen so far from the tree it doesn't even know it's an acorn!


Nancy said...

These acorns are true NUTS!

Lady Di Tn said...

Of course the news media around the country are not giving these facts out.
How insulting. A box over the cross how disgusting.
If folks would look deeper into these groups they might see the Evil that lurks.
You go girl.